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There is an old quarrel between philosophy and poetry
--Plato, The Republic (Book X, 607b)
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| The tension Plato creates between poetry and philosophy has had no small impact on the history and tradition of occidental intellectual history. For Plato, poets are rhetoricians who are...selling their products to as large a market as possible, in the hope of gaining repute and influence...The quarrel between poetry and philosophy is finally, in Plato's eyes, about the relative priority of making and discovery. Philosophers "discover" truth. Poets "make" representations of truth; they do not harvest truth in and of itself. Freshmen in the groves of academe will consider these issues. By the time these students are undertaking their graduate studies they will be able to expound more prolifically on these matters. They will have insights into why the poets are banned from Plato's Republic (or ideal body politic). More's the pity, however, that the motivation of the arsonists in one of Aristophanes' comedies will not be fully appreciated. |
Inning 1: Poets
[Starter] Plato
Hesiod K . . .
Donne K . . .
Whitman 5-3 . . .
Inning 1: Philosophers
[Starter] Milton
James 7 . . .
Scotus HR . . . 1
Descartes BB . . X
Hume BB . X X
*SB:Descartes SB X . X
WP . X . 1
Plotinus 2B . X . 1
Abelard K . X .
Aristotle 4-3 X . .
Inning 2: Poets
Shakespeare BB . . X
Plath 8 . . X
Poe 8 . . X
Petrarch 4-6 F . . X
Inning 2: Philosophers
Thales 4-3 . . .
Plato 6 . . .
James 8 . . .
Inning 3: Poets
Ovid BB . . X
Milton 1-3 SAC . X .
Hesiod 1B . . X 1
Donne 7 . . X
Whitman BB . X X
Shakespeare K . X X
Inning 3: Philosophers
Scotus K . . .
Descartes 7 . . .
Hume 4-3 . . .
Inning 4: Poets
Plath 8 . . .
Poe 1B . . X
WP . X .
Petrarch 9 . X .
Ovid K . X .
Inning 4: Philosophers
Plotinus 3-1 . . .
Abelard 2B . X .
Aristotle K . X .
Thales 1B . . X 1
*EX:Plato (for PH)
X@2:Thales CS 2-6 . . .
Inning 5: Poets
[Relief] Erigena
*PH:Milton 1B . . X
Hesiod 2-3 . X .
Donne 8 . X .
Whitman 6-3 . X .
Inning 5: Philosophers
Erigena 1-3 . . .
James K . . .
Scotus 9 . . .
Inning 6: Poets
Shakespeare 4-3 . . .
Plath K . . .
Poe BB . . X
Petrarch 1B . X X
Ovid K . X X
Inning 6: Philosophers
Descartes 2B . X .
Hume K . X .
*SB:Descartes SB X . .
Plotinus K X . .
Abelard 1B . . X 1
Aristotle HR . . . 2
Thales 6-3 . . .
Inning 7: Poets
*EX:Milton (for PH)
*PH:Chaucer K . . .
Hesiod K . . .
Donne K . . .
Inning 7: Philosophers
[Relief] Homer
Erigena 8 . . .
James 7 . . .
Scotus 8 . . .
Inning 8: Poets
Whitman K . . .
Shakespeare K . . .
Plath K . . .
Inning 8: Philosophers
Descartes K . . .
Hume 1B . . X
WP . X .
Plotinus 8 . X .
Abelard HBP . X X
Aristotle 6-3 X X .
Inning 9: Poets
Poe 4 . . .
Petrarch K . . .
Ovid HR . . . 1
Homer 4-3 . . .
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Game Comments
Do the results of this simulated, imaginary cosmic baseball game indicate that the quarrel is over between philosophy and poetry? Do the facts, figures, and results generated on the cosmic field of play correspond to the issues at hand? Science may well be the new faith-based source of wisdom. There may be no room for divine connections between imaginary baseball games and real world events. Harsher skeptics would tell us that there is no relationship or correspondence between real baseball games (Major League or Little League varieties) and other real world events. A young rookie in the Major Leagues hits a walk off home run in a baseball stadium in the capital of the United States. This has no impact, bearing, or correspondence with, for example, the rising tensions between the Darod, Hawiye and Habr Gedir clans on the continent of Africa.
Does the statistical behavior of the poets and philosophers on the cosmic baseball field in any manner correspond to the value and/or importance of their philosophical and/or poetic output? For example, the Ancient Roman poet Ovid (43 BC-17? AD) did well statistically. He scored both of the Poets only runs, he smacked a home run in the ninth inning...Too little too late...Ovid played for the losing team. American philosopher William James (1842-1910) had four at bats and did nothing with the opportunities except fly out to left field twice, fly out to center field once, and strikeout once. But he played on the winning team. James is a catcher; Ovid is a right fielder. Whom would you want on your team, the poet Ovid or the philosopher James?
Plato (428-347 BC) pitched the first four innings for the winning team but did not get credit for the win. John Scotus Erigena (815-877 AD) gets the win and the designation as the game's "most cosmic player." Poet John Milton (1608-1674) takes the loss. Ironically, Plato never got to face Homer (~8th Century BC) (or vice versa). Homer relieved Milton at the start of the seventh inning. We see irony here because much of Plato's philosophy germinated in a culture infused with mindsets dramatically influenced by Homer's poetic works, specifically the Iliad and the Odyssey. These "classics" were "written" 500 years before Socrates (469-399 BC) and Plato strolled the roads and paths of Athens. The impact of Homer on the cultural beliefs of the citizens of Athens at the time Plato wrote his "dialogues" was considerable and significant.
Coincidentally, just after Ovid hit a two-out, bases empty homer to raise the Poets' run tally to two in the top of the ninth inning, Homer made the last out of the game by grounding out to the second baseman, John Duns Scotus (1265-1308).
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Three up, three down. Plato (428-347 BC) strikes out the first two batters and gets American poet Whitman (1819-1892) to ground out to third baseman David Hume (1711-1776).
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